Recession

Seriously, I got nuthin. I can't even make fun of it - it's so stupid on the face of it.

Swipe to go to another post.

Democrats have no ability to feel shame, so they can lie endlessly I guess.

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Budwick 13 days ago

In response to “Democrats have no ability to feel shame, so...

You mean like Trump?

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urwutuis 13 days ago

In response to “You mean like Trump?

No, not at all.

I don't understand this constant drum about Trump lies. I read an article quoting Trump saying -

“After years of federal contracts going to foreign bidders, we are ensuring that government agencies enforce “Buy American” rules and give preference to American companies — and that American companies hire American workers.”

The author then claims this to be a lie, because Trump businesses have purchased foreign goods. That's BS and all the crap you guys claim as lies, are not.

A lie is more like hiring someone to make up an outrageous story - complete fiction then write it in the format of an investigative report. Then, 'leak' the made up report to the press. Then use the made up report and uncorroborated new reports made from the leaks as 'strong evidence' of wrong doing to obtain FISA warrants!

Or, a lie is like if a Secretary of State ignores pleas for additional security in a place, let's say like Benghazi. And ignores reports of growing unrest in the same place. Then, when the ambassador and several other Americans are horrifically murdered by terrorists, fail to send back up to help. THEN, lie to the American people about what really happened, and blame it on some lame **** video!

Those last two? THOSE are lies.

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Budwick 13 days ago

In response to “No, not at all. I don't understand this...

Or if Donald Trump calls into talk shows pretending to be John Barron to pump up some scheme Donald Trump is attempting.

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Flrdsgns 12 days ago

In response to “Or if Donald Trump calls into talk shows...

And, you believe this is something that actually happened?

Does the left have their own Alex Jones?

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Budwick 12 days ago

In response to “And, you believe this is something that...

I know Bud, unless it comes over Fox News or Rush says it, you don't believe any actual recorded or filmed events of trump. smh

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Flrdsgns 12 days ago

In response to “I know Bud, unless it comes over Fox News or...

Please, enlighten me then!

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Budwick 12 days ago

In response to “I know Bud, unless it comes over Fox News or...

Flanders! Are you there? I'm waiting to be edumacated!

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Budwick 12 days ago

In response to “Flanders! Are you there? I'm waiting to be...

If you haven't heard any of the tapes of trump calling into news or talk shows and promoting himself, I guess you could google it. I've heard a few incidents and read some articles about it, and have no interest in looking it up again just to give you proof. If you are actually interested, you can look it up yourself.

16 investigations into Benghazi, and nothing criminal found. If you have proof there was a crime, or that someone lied, please prove it, or send your proof to Trey Goudy, since he is the one who spends millions investigating over and over again.

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Flrdsgns 12 days ago

In response to “If you haven't heard any of the tapes of...

The proof of lies regarding Benghazi is common knowledge.
Apparently lying to the public isn't a crime.
And the issue was lies - not crimes.
Please, don't try to change the 'rules' in the middle of the game. That's not criminal either - but really weakens your position and is tacky. (Oh, that's right, you're a dem - tacky - 1. not having or exhibiting good taste:)

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Budwick 11 days ago

In response to “No, not at all. I don't understand this...

, and he had the biggest inauguration crowd and it didn't rain, Obama tapped his phone, his were the biggest tax cuts ever and didn't benefit him, only 16 people died in Puerto Rico, 3 million illegals voted in California, spy-gate.
Everyone is lying except Trump.

Benghazi? Really?
9 trials and you're still harping on Benghazi?
Unbelievable.
Aside from being totally irrelevant it's another pizza-gate.

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urwutuis 9 days ago

In response to “and he had the biggest inauguration crowd...

Biggest inauguration crowd and it didn't rain? THAT is your reason for wanting to impeach Trump?

The tax cut was / is significant. I'm sure you have some new math trick to illustrate how Obama's tax increases actually cut taxes more. Whether it benefits Trump or not, I wouldn't know. It was targeted to the middle class. Are you saying there was no tax cut?

As far as deaths in Puerto Rico goes, blame who ever told Trump that 16 died when he was there. You might want to get some detail from the idiots that made up number in the thousands, 3K I think. It was an estimate made from comparing the year before deaths in a time period and comparing to recent numbers and accounting for the difference as hurricane related. All BS.

There were NO Benghazi trials. [At least with Hillary as defendant.] Several congressional hearings. And information leaking and being uncovered consistently, as well as the reported facts all indicate that Hillary and Obama did those people wrong and lied to all of us.

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Budwick 7 days ago

In response to “Biggest inauguration crowd and it didn't...

Who said I wanted to impeach Trump? I don't want him impeached.

The PR death numbers came from George Washington University's initial report.
The original count of 68 were direct deaths.
Indirect deaths count too. The only way to estimate storm deaths is by comparison to prior years.

83% of tax cuts went to 10% of the population.
My taxes went up.
Whatever meager gains were seen will be eaten up by trade wars

reported facts all indicate that Hillary and Obama did those people wrong and lied to all of us.
Aside from being irrelevant.
The hearings (not trials) came to a somewhat different conclusion.

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urwutuis 5 days ago

Hope and Taxes? :)

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Will_Janitor 13 days ago

In response to “Hope and Taxes? :)

You realize Obama cut taxes and made the Bush tax cuts permanent, right?

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urwutuis 13 days ago

In response to “You realize Obama cut taxes and made the Bush...

You do remember the Obamacare tax, and his plan for carbon tax.

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Will_Janitor 13 days ago

In response to “You do remember the Obamacare tax, and his...

Yeah, and what became of that?
Obamacare, passed without public option, is a republican plan as was the carbon tax.

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urwutuis 9 days ago

for President Trump doing such a lousy job
the Halfrican sure wants to take credit for it

hahaahahahaahhaaaa

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Neanderthal_Momdoer 13 days ago

Why don't you ever look things up, Budwick, before shooting off your mouth? Then you would see, (as most have) that jobs added, has been on the uptick since 2009.

Trump has added trillions to the deficit for one huge lopsided tax cut, not to mention 12 billion to the farmers, to undo a problem HE created.

A billion here, a trillion there, here a quack, there a quack, everywhere a quack quack.

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dru18 13 days ago

In response to “Why don't you ever look things up, Budwick...

June 2016 town hall event in Indiana when Obama was asked about Trump’s promise to kick-start manufacturing jobs in the country.

“Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There’s no answer to it,” Obama said.

“He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’ Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn’t have an answer,” Obama continued.

Obama - June 2016

Then, trump was elected and he waived his magic wand.

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Budwick 13 days ago

In response to “June 2016 town hall event in Indiana when...

Obama could think of no way
To negotiate deals that would pay
American workers
Instead of the shirkers
That make up the Dem base today.

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Thinkerbell 12 days ago

In response to “June 2016 town hall event in Indiana when...

No, he didn't, Budwick, the manufacturing jobs are not returning.

He created that Frankenstein tax cut bill with the "promise" that companies would take the money and reinvest in the workers through higher wages and the creation of more jobs, and of course they DIDN'T.

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dru18 12 days ago

In response to “FYI: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/busi...

Poor Dru - stepped in progressive **** again.

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Budwick 12 days ago

In response to “Poor Dru - stepped in progressive **** again.

So, what else is new...?   (hehe)

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Thinkerbell 12 days ago

In response to “https://www.technologyreview.com/s/602869/manuf...

That article was written a week after Trump was elected. He hadn't even taken office yet. Like you the article is pure speculation.

The article Think cited is from earlier this summer. It talks about stuff that actually happened.

Dru, you are embarrassing yourself. Please, stop.

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Budwick 7 days ago

In response to “That article was written a week after Trump...

OMG!! The article reflected many years! The point was, that the manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. Trump made a promise that is not based in reality. Technology and outsourcing are here to stay.

Learn how to connect the dots, Budwick.

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dru18 6 days ago

In response to “OMG!! The article reflected many years! The...

Dru,

I excel at dot connecting.
I MAJORED in dot connection.


And MY point was that your information is old and the manufacturing jobs are already coming back.

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Budwick 5 days ago

In response to “Dru, I excel at dot connecting. I MAJORED...

lmao! NO, THEY, ARE, NOT.

There is no way that any person behind a large manufacturing corporation is going to blow off slave wages and cheaper robotics.

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dru18 2 days ago

In response to “That article was written a week after Trump...

Liberals are incapable of embarrassment, Bud.

That's part of being liberal.

Maybe it shuts down the embarrassment gene.
At the very least, it hampers the logical thinking genes. (hehe)

https://www.sciencedaily.com/re...1027161452.htm

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Thinkerbell yesterday

In response to “No, they are not...

I notice the 30-year trend they referenced in the article conveniently stops in 2014. (hehe)

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Thinkerbell 9 days ago

In response to “I notice the 30-year trend they referenced in...

Not coming back, Stinker. There is no way technology and cheap labor are taking a back seat.

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dru18 9 days ago

In response to “Not coming back, Stinker. There is no way...

I agree that it's not going to come back to what it was 30 years ago.

But I also notice that neither you nor the Technology Review had any comment on the article I referenced, which listed a total of about 70,000 jobs that have come back.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/...rica/36438051/

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Thinkerbell 8 days ago

In response to “Not coming back, Stinker. There is no way...

You know how you attribute the soaring economy to Obama?

Maybe you could avoid the embarrassment of being 110% wrong by making up some BS story about how Obama brought the manufacturing back somehow.

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Budwick yesterday

Well, how's that hopey changey **** working for you?

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that_guy 13 days ago

Has anyone here even bothered to look at a chart?
Apparently not.



And what happened to all the debt hawks?

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urwutuis 13 days ago

In response to “Has anyone here even bothered to look at a...

The chart clearly shows the anemic 2%/annum GDP growth under Obama, falling steadily further and further behind the 3% historical trendline. A 4% catch-up rate began only with Trump, for which Obama and the Democrats are now trying to take credit. (hehe)

And what happened to the debt hawks?
They became Democrats, of course.

("My deficit doesn't matter, your deficit is bad.")

https://www.politico.com/magazi...ut-them-216946

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Thinkerbell 13 days ago

In response to “The chart clearly shows the anemic 2%/annum...

And what? Your going to call a major change based on one quarter? There were quarters with 4% growth under Obama too. It doesn't mean shit. GDP is a stupid way to judge how well the country is doing. It would be a boost to GDP if we had more sick people and more debt. A few more disasters would help too. So would more war.

What is obvious to most is the trend.

They didn't become democrats they just showed their true colors . . . again.
Now let's build a space force because we need more military.
Then we can privatize war.

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urwutuis 9 days ago

In response to “And what? Your going to call a major change...

"There were quarters with 4% growth under Obama too. It doesn't mean shit."

And there were quarters of negative growth with Obama. What DOES have meaning is that under Obama, the average GDP growth rate was well under the 3% average since the post WW2 period.

"GDP is a stupid way to judge how well the country is doing. It would be a boost to GDP if we had more sick people and more debt. A few more disasters would help too. So would more war."

OK, let's put your assertion to the test. According to you, wars should show up as a jump in GDP, yet the chart you yourself posted shows no evidence of that since 1950. War or peace, the trend has been a steady 3%, within the usual boom/recession fluctuations. Until 2008-2016, that is. Then there was a significant drop to 2%, even though we had at least the average war level going on in Afghanistan (the 'good' war, according to Obama).

The only part of the chart that even comes close to bearing out your assertion is the post WW2 years, 1945-50, when war production stopped and industries were retooling to resume consumer production, such as private automobiles.

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Thinkerbell 4 days ago

In response to “Has anyone here even bothered to look at a...

Charts only show numbers compiled by government offices. A big part of their job is to fudge the data so it doesn't embarrass their superiors.

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that_guy 9 days ago

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