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My #1 idea, although I seriously doubt we can all agree on it (though many may agree in theory, I just don't really see too many extending that to actual practice):

Respect the sovereignty of nations and individuals. In other words, let's all mind our own damn business. When others aren't infringing upon our rights, we've no right to infringe upon theirs.

As always...JMHO

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Bozette 6 months ago

In response to “My #1 idea, although I seriously doubt we can...

I get that, bo. But what of the nations that commit terrible human rights violations against their people? Against the desire of the peoole?

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Carla 6 months ago

In response to “I get that, bo. But what of the nations that...

I won't say there is never a time to step in...but I will say I believe those times are few and far between. Now I am sure many will think I am a cold **** for that stance, and that's fine...I came to it by studying history.

Here's the thing. By our standards, one could say that any number of countries, particularly in the ME and Africa, are committing human rights abuses. Now we have such a pristine record in both regions...where would you like to start? Hey, we're already in the neighborhood, right? But before we go, I'd just ask you to do some serious research into how "helpful" we've been over there. Mkay?

I'd also like to point out the fact that most of the Western world considers us to be guilty of human rights abuses. Think about that. Oh, and who should we attack for those human rights abuses by the UN "peacekeeping" and "humanitarian" missions? After all, we are the biggest funder of the UN, and they are headquartered in NYC.

I'd also point out the fact that since 1776 there have been a whopping 21 years when we weren't engaging in a war (whether officially proclaimed as such or not, because we haven't actually declared war since WW II) somewhere in the world for at least a part of the year, often the entire year. Twenty-one ****' years.

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Bozette 6 months ago

In response to “I won't say there is //never// a time to step...

Mkay...ha!
I certainly get it. I too think our noses should be kept out of most of what we stick them into.
We sure arent rushing into places like north korea or syria.
But without bombing and bullets, the industries that make them suddenly arent needed, so much. Wonder how that out of control military budget would be without that spending. The arms industry is worth 400 billion dollars, not counting china. How much of the government do you reckon they finance?

I would italicize as appropriate if i could

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Carla 6 months ago

In response to “Mkay...ha! I certainly get it. I too think...

Their "financing" of the government, despite campaign donations/lobbying and what taxes they might pay is paltry...easily made up by jacking those cost plus contracts and fancy accounting. There is far, far more than arms involved...$100 a load laundry services, contaminated water for the troops, and semi-trucks blown up and replaced for want of a spare tire (I shit you not!). Currently, a great deal of our "troops" aren't troops at all...but paid mercenaries. Remember Abu Graib? Yeah, the pictures were mainly privates...but the torture was outsourced. We outsource...welp, damn near everything to these types of companies. One has actually had a few of its employees convicted for the massacre of innocent Iraqis...8 years later. Of course, the company was not held responsible and continued doing business with the government.

Oh no, the MIC won't stand for anything less than endless wars. Nor, for that matter, will the bankers stand for it...but that's a whole 'nother rant.

And that outsourcing is in addition to some 800 "formal" military bases in 70-80 countries, and along with the "informal" ones and other deployments we have a military presence in ~ 177 countries. Exact numbers are impossible to come by.

(Sorry...YUUUUUUUUGE pet peeve of mine.)

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Bozette 6 months ago

In response to “Their "financing" of the government...

All part of the military budget, i would think. Werent you in favor of the current administrations proposal to increase that budget? I likely am mistaken.

I know a fellow who was in the army, years ago. Learned to work on helicopters, in the army. Some company was paying him a hundred grand a pop to go to afghanistan for 5 months to repair helicopters. Now...how much sense does that make?

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Carla 6 months ago

In response to “All part of the military budget, i would...

Nope. Not I.

That's what I'm talking about!

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Bozette 6 months ago

In response to “Their "financing" of the government...

The entire procurement process for the military is designed to overpay for just about everything. When I hear that the military spends $100 for a hemmer that you can buy at Home Depot for $35, I want to scream.

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Linnster 6 months ago

Here's something that we can all agree on: People who sexually molest children need to be dealt with harshly. I look at the registered **** offenders in my area and many haven't even done time. Pedophilia should be dealt with; heavier punishment should be enforced.

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JerryHendrickson 6 months ago

#1. All governments are corrupt. This needs to be countered with campaign finance laws and term limits.
#2. Use an open source computer algorithm to recreate electoral districts (end gerrymandering).
#3. Proportional representation. One person, one vote. (I can hear the howls).

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PhilboydStudge 6 months ago

In response to “#1. All governments are corrupt. This needs...

Love that one. :)

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DW2 6 months ago

I don't know what I am, liberals call me conservative, the conservatives call me PC.

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Sunny_the_skeptic 6 months ago

In response to “I don't know what I am, liberals call me...

You are probably what I would call a moderate - a little to the left of center on social issues and a little to the right on economic issues.

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Linnster 6 months ago

I vote for the best person with the policies that are good for the people. People have labeled me hard core liberal, and that's not true at all. I'm moderate. I've voted for both parties, depending what their policies are that would help the American people. And it's getting harder all the time, so many scandals, both parties. There just aren't too many honest politicians anymore.

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StarzAbove 6 months ago

Air, water, soil. Without them, clean and fertile, all but the very wealthy will suffer.
If proper eduation isnt available to all that want it, all but the very wealthy suffers.
If healthcare isnt affordable to everyone in need of it, all but the very wealthy will suffer.
The heart of a person is shown when they mistreat or allow the mistreatment of animals.
And...what phil said.

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Carla 6 months ago

I don't compermise
that automaticly makes me a hate mongering racist ****

a question
if say for instance, bumpstocks (which are junk) we say ok, let's get rid of them, now for the Left's turn to offer something.... say

Voter ID
think the Left will Compermise?

the Left has abandoned Common Sense

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Neanderthal_Momdoer 6 months ago

In response to “I don't compermise that automaticly makes me...

I have to show id to vote. So should everyone.
That wasnt so tough.

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Carla 6 months ago

In response to “I have to show id to vote. So should...

Actually, we do not. We can sign an affidavit instead of showing ID.

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Bozette 6 months ago

In response to “Actually, we do //not//. We can sign an...

Nor do we. No affidavit either. Just sign your name so that they can see that you did not sign-in twice.

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VicZinc 6 months ago

In response to “Actually, we do //not//. We can sign an...

Did not know that. They ask for my id, i show it. Figured it was a requirement.
I have to say, though....voter fraud is not a real issue.
I dont know much about computers and such, but it seems there should be more concern about illegitamate votes or altered ones coming by way of technology than by actual foot traffic voters.

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Carla 6 months ago

In response to “Did not know that. They ask for my id, i show...

Michigan does have a voter identification requirement at the polls. Voters are asked to present an acceptable photo ID such as a Michigan driver's license or identification card. Please note that voters who do not have an acceptable form of ID or failed to bring it with them to the polls still can vote. They simply sign a brief affidavit stating that they're not in possession of a photo ID. Their ballots are included with all others and counted on Election Day.

http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4...520--F,00.html

It does happen.

http://www.capoliticalreview.co...mit-they-vote/

And yes, fraud is ripe with the electronic voting machines, as has been proven.

https://youtu.be/u4FPuLNjvAc

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Bozette 6 months ago

In response to “I have to show id to vote. So should...

so do I Miss Carla
and I got red skin unlike 2dogfuckingwarren

Pennsylvania just voted.... go see if they needed ID

better yet, why is the National Socialist party so against Voter ID laws?

easy peasy really

people won't vote for them
so they will IMPORT THEM

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Neanderthal_Momdoer 6 months ago

In response to “so do I Miss Carla and I got red skin unlike...

Oh...okay. illegal immigrants..hoards of them. Gonna elect the democrats. Like yesterday in Pennsylvania. Busing them in by the *millions*.

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Carla 6 months ago

To me, more important that the first, second or fifth amendments is the fourth. Particularly the clause:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

This means they cannot pat-you-down in a traffic stop without a warrant,
they cannot collect phone or email records with a warrant.
They cannot ask you for your "papers" or your "ID" (including driver license or voter registration) without a warrant.
They cannot ask you where you are going or where you are coming from or what you had to eat or drink - without a warrant.
They cannot take your DNA or your blood or your breath or your urine without a warrant.
They cannot take you, or ask you to lay down, or turn around, or put 'your hands up', or handcuff you - without a warrant.

This will never happen, but it seems clear to me as it does that they cannot take our guns (2nd amendment), or tell us to shut up (free speech), or tell you what to read or not read (free press), or to worship or not to worship (free religion),
or any of the other rights.

This is , the erosion of our 4th amendment rights needs to stop, now.

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VicZinc 6 months ago

Three of my favorites:
1.All Taxpayer money that the Government spends needs to be accounted for after the fact. (I feel the debate coming)
2.Animal cruelty needs to be better defined and more heavily prosecuted.
3. Racism should not only be a subject applied to White People. It should apply to All People.

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DW2 6 months ago

In response to “Three of my favorites: 1.All Taxpayer money...

I agree with the exception that the money Government spends needs to be put forth in a proposed budget BEFORE they spend it. I want to know where it's supposed to go not where it went before I had a chance to determine if that money was well spent.

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Linnster 6 months ago

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