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After Texas church massacre, two men hailed as heroes for chasing and shooting the gunman - NTD...In the aftermath of the Texas church massacre, two men are being hailed as heroes...
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just look at cities where democrat gun control is the reality, those cities have the highest gun crimes as well. and if democrats had their way and gun violence only went up, what would be democrats response? even more control? to what ends? the best gun control is knowing how to use a gun in a high stress situation, so that lives can be saved

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I've noticed a pattern. The bad guy stops killing people whenever a good guy shows up and shoots him. Just sayin!

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Budwick 17 days ago

That depends on what Dems you talk to. Many of them just want to get rid of assult weapons and high capacity magazines. Others want the whole ball of wax, and still others are somewhere in between.

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Will_Janitor 17 days ago

In response to “That depends on what Dems you talk to. Many...

except they can;t properly define what an assault weapon is, they speak out of their ****, and don;t have the slightest clue what they are talking about.

define assault, if i hit you then i am assaulting you, then my fist are by definition at that point assault weapons, where does it end? any weapon you use on another human being can be classified as an assault weapon.

look at how terrorist extremists kill a great many people, 9/11 two box cutter knives and some planes, bombs, vehicles, not guns, we don;t hear liberals wanting to ban planes, box cutter knives or vehicles.

what part of 'though shalt not infringe" do liberals not understand?

putting a restriction on high capacity will only prevent law abiding citizens from owning them, criminals will still use em. and guess what, the shooter was not legally allowed to have a gun of any kind, did that stop him? no it did not. so tell me ho wmore regulation will prevent anything? other then take away the rights of law abiding citizens???

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sh9683 17 days ago

In response to “except they can;t properly define what an...

I understand what you are saying and many of the lawmakers are clueless about what they want. I'm saying that there are a lot of Democrat regular people that are gun owners and not goofy like some of the loudest mouths on the left.

The estimated 600 million guns in the USA are not all owned by Republicans. :)

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Will_Janitor 17 days ago

In response to “I understand what you are saying and many of...

I, absolutely, adore you, will:)

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Carla 17 days ago

In response to “I, absolutely, adore you, will:)

I'm very fond of you too, Carla. (redface)

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Will_Janitor 17 days ago

In response to “I understand what you are saying and many of...

its democrat law makers that are clueless, and liberals in general (at least the very 'social" liberals). it really is like they discriminate against a gun because of how it looks.

liberal MSM always ignores the times guns saved lives, their are LOTS. but you have to research because liberal MSM want to paint a biased negative picture on guns,

when you look at actual stats, gun death's is amongst the lowest cause of death in the US, but MSM puts it under a magnifying glass so that people have an unreasonable bias against guns and gun owners.

the highest cause of death is abortion, so really if anyone supports abortion they have no right to say jack shit about guns.

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “its democrat law makers that are clueless...

you are too bright are you? the highest rate of death is "natural death" so the Medical examiners write on your death certificate. So get your facts in order. Abortion is good, just think if the mother of the Thug From Queens had aborted him 70 plus years ago?

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vaivia 14 days ago

never let a good tragedy go to waste.....

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Freeranger 17 days ago

Just think. If the killer had a knife or a garret he might have killed even more people before a hero with a registered knife could get close enough to stop him. Thank goodness for guns!

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VicZinc 17 days ago

In response to “Just think. If the killer had a knife or a...

Imagine if the shooters criminal past had actually been reported to national crime database!

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Budwick 16 days ago

In response to “Imagine if the shooters criminal past had...

So true. Then he would have had to go to a 'gun show' instead of Walmart to buy his piece.

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VicZinc 16 days ago

In response to “So true. Then he would have had to go to a...

Maybe you could focus your efforts on that actual weakness in the system!

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Budwick 16 days ago

In response to “Maybe you could focus your efforts on...

I prefer not to focus on it at all.

Free guns for everyone!

No restrictions. Mortars, tanks, anti-aircraft guns.

Anything goes as far as I am concerned.

Suitcase Nukes? I say, "why not!"

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VicZinc 16 days ago

In response to “I prefer not to focus on it at all. Free...

Are you unable to actually discuss things?
Or, do you simply prefer hyperbole?

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Budwick 15 days ago

In response to “Are you //unable// to actually discuss...

I was raised to think that the Bill of Rights was more important than the Bible. I think there should be no laws restricting armaments owned by free citizens.

what are your thoughts?

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VicZinc 15 days ago

In response to “I prefer not to focus on it at all. Free...

VicZinc, Your post prompted me to tell you that yesterday I watched a rerun of a very old TV show from the 1950s called "Highway Patrol". The criminal they were chasing had a bazooka that he had stolen from a military armory and he was using to blow open safes where businesses kept their cash before taking to banks for depositing. Was that an assault weapon, because he was only shooting safes with it and not shooting other people?

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goblue1968 15 days ago

In response to “VicZinc, Your post prompted me to tell you...

The right to bear arms shall not be infringed. I don't care if he was shooting gofers or tyrants.

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VicZinc 15 days ago

In response to “The right to bear arms shall not be...

Vic, I totally agree with you.

I am actually a dues-paying member of the NRA and I don't even have a gun (and never did).

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goblue1968 15 days ago

In response to “So true. Then he would have had to go to a...

Or just stole on from a neighbor. Or bought one on the street.

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Will_Janitor 16 days ago

In response to “Or just stole on from a neighbor. Or bought...

Yeah, that's true. Stolen weapons should be reported - but they're not always.

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Budwick 16 days ago

In response to “Yeah, that's true. Stolen weapons should be...

Especially if it was handed down without paperwork.

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Will_Janitor 16 days ago

In response to “Especially if it was handed down without...

Agreed. I'm a BIG 2nd Amendment supporter, but knowing who is buying them seems like a no brainer to me. I don't know what to do about stolen guns and / or undocumented guns.

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Budwick 16 days ago

In response to “Just think. If the killer had a knife or a...

No, when you kill somebody at close range, no matter what you use, there is more fear and a better change of getting your own **** killed. that is what makes gun toting people dangerous, they can shoot you w/o even smelling your last breath.

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vaivia 14 days ago

If a nut case doesn't have a gun, he will make a pipe bomb or IED. If he can't make a bomb, he will use a truck. I'f he doesn't have a truck, he can use a knife. If he doesn't have a knife, he can buy some poison.
Ignorant comments that claim the weapon is responsible, live with their heads in the sand.

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JustJimColo 17 days ago

In response to “If a nut case doesn't have a gun, he will...

It would be hard to walk into church and poison everyone, he can't drive a truck in there...bombs are difficult unless you want to kill yourself...guns can kill many people quickly .

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “It would be hard to walk into church and...

Bombs are actually very simple to make and you can easily put one on a timer. The UK has had their share of mass murders as well, by all the mean you listed, including guns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L..._Great_Britain
http://www.bbc.com/news/10216955
I think in the latest case here in TX, it was a case of the killer "wanting" to "see" those people die.
One of the reasons the UK doesn't experience the number of these killings is that the UK is about the size of Oregon and has a population of about 65 million as opposed to 330 million.

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JustJimColo 16 days ago

In response to “Bombs are actually very simple to make and...

Based on 100,000 of population, USA 10.54 and uk is 0.23 ....so it does not matter how many but having guns or not having guns...

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “Based on 100,000 of population, USA 10.54 and...

Have to disagree with you. It's still not the guns, but who has them. We always hear the stories about how bad the NRA is in protecting people's right to own guns. I don't know of a single NRA member who has gone out and committed murders with their guns.

Statistics, as you know, are all about how they are presented.
https://crimeresearch.org/2015/...us-and-europe/

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JustJimColo 16 days ago

In response to “Have to disagree with you. It's still not...

It's a fact, if you ain't got a gun, you can't shoot anyone...

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “It's a fact, if you ain't got a gun, you...

and criminals will use that to their advantage. they will know law abiding citizens will not have guns to defend themselves so they will have so many more targets

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “and criminals will use that to their...

It don't happen like that in England and we don't carry guns and I'm not dead yet...even being law abiding citizens...

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “It don't happen like that in England and we...

was there not an attack or several not too long ago in england killing people? no guns used.

you have an irrational bias against guns. people don;t need guns to kill. and the fact that violence rate has NOT gone down in England should be evidence enough that. guns are NOT a requirement for violence. violence has existed since the beginning of time. and guns are not needed to kill thousands of people. look at 9/11 tel lme again how many guns where used.

in the USA if law abiding citizens where not allowed guns criminals would still use them. look at chicago or detroit for example

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “was there not an attack or several not too...

You will find the killings that happened were terrorists and the reason our crime rate has increased, we have too many foreigners over here and our prisons are full of them...

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “You will find the killings that happened were...

doesn;t matter, my point is that guns are not needed to kill people, guns do not have mind control capabilities forcing people to act violently. the issue is people. you could outright ban guns, violence and killing will NOT go down, only solution is to make laws in favor of self defense,

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “doesn;t matter, my point is that guns are not...

Then everyone will be able to shoot anyone and say they were acting in self defence..you have your opinion, which I respect and I have mine ...you grew up with guns and we grew up without them...we won't change..

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “Then everyone will be able to shoot anyone...

thats BS, many states have said self defense laws and your hypothetical is NOT reality.

but your gun free society has NOT reduced violence is reality. also your gun free society is not really gun free because of the black market

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “thats BS, many states have said self defense...

Never said it was gun free...killing by gun here is rare ...but where you are, killing by gun is every day....it's a fact....now you are starting with DVs , and getting pathetic ...I'm off

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “was there not an attack or several not too...

While I agree with everything else you've said, you are mistaken regarding Detroit. There is no gun ban in Detroit, state law prevails.

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Bozette 16 days ago

In response to “While I agree with everything else you've...

thanks for letting me know. didn;t know that

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sh9683 15 days ago

In response to “It don't happen like that in England and we...

Homicides are up 14% in England and Wales. While you may not carry, or own a gun. Others there do. I'd rather have one and never need it than not have it if I do.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-...nife-gun-crime

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JustJimColo 16 days ago

In response to “Homicides are up 14% in England and Wales...

Most of that is terrorists...and other immigrants....

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “Most of that is terrorists...and other...

Does it matter who it is? A threat is a threat is a threat. The US's numbers would drop as well if you took out the terrorists and the immigrants, legal as well as illegal. Unfortunately, we don't live in countries without terrorists or immigrants.

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JustJimColo 16 days ago

In response to “Does it matter who it is? A threat is a...

I'm saying most of our killings are by terrorists....so it matters to us...our crime rate has been dropping until 2015 by 4% and since then it has risen by 11% ..which tends to prove the influx of immigrants has caused these changes ....

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “I'm saying most of our killings are by...

As it should.

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JustJimColo 16 days ago

In response to “It's a fact, if you ain't got a gun, you...

Name me a place on the planet where a bad guy who wants a gun bad enough, can't get a gun. That's just a reality Jon. Guns are also equalizers. There was recently a case of an 80+ year old woman who shot a person who broke into her home. What might have happened if she wasn't armed? With crime getting as bad as it is getting everywhere, and people like you and me add another 15 years to our age, there isn't much we are going to be able to do if a couple 23 year old intruders break into our homes without a "tool" to help us. When we were young, 50 years ago, the thought of needing a tool like a gun for personal defense was somewhat remote. Times have changed.

Hell John, I'd love to think when I retire in a few years that I could live on my farm in a remote area with there being no threat out there and I wouldn't need a gun for anything except hunting.

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JustJimColo 16 days ago

In response to “Name me a place on the planet where a bad guy...

Bad people can get guns, but I know there are times when having a gun might have saved a life, but none of us having guns, mean there is a good chance no one dies...

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “Bad people can get guns, but I know there are...

The hypothetical idea of "nobody" having guns, just isn't realistic John. The areas that have the strictest gun laws, are sometimes the places with the most gun violence. Ex. Chicago.

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JustJimColo 16 days ago

In response to “The hypothetical idea of "nobody"...

It's realistic here....it works at the moment but the face we have open borders ...who knows...

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “It's realistic here....it works at the moment...

It's a scary world out there John, and getting scarier. Glad I grew up in the era I did. Not sure what kind of world our grandkid's will be facing.

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JustJimColo 16 days ago

In response to “It's a scary world out there John, and...

Me to....

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “Bad people can get guns, but I know there are...

so you are saying their are no criminals with guns in England? i highly doubt that. laws are like locks on doors, they are their for law abiding citizens and keep them in check, criminals will find ways if they want.

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “so you are saying their are no criminals with...

Find me where I said there are no criminals with guns.....if you look about five comments above here, I said bad people get guns.....now bye....

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “Find me where I said there are no criminals...

good people die when when good people aren;t allowed guns while criminals still get guns

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “It would be hard to walk into church and...

a bomb can kill just as many even faster, all it takes is premeditated action, say break into the church at 2 in the morning set everything up and come church time BAM! their are ways without guns and it happens all the time, liberal Media just chooses to look the other way

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “a bomb can kill just as many even faster, all...

If the church has been broken into, then when the minister goes to open up and notices it has been broken in, then surely he would check the church before allowing the congregation to go in....

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “If the church has been broken into, then when...

not if there is no sign of being broken into. perhaps a good locksmith unlocked the door set things up locked the door back up, no one is the wiser.

all i am getting at is its easy to kill many people without a gun, people do it all the time. yet liberals never blame the weapon used unless its a gun

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “not if there is no sign of being broken into...

You forgot, they got a carpenter in and then a decorator to stain the door......

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “If the church has been broken into, then when...

We have a church out in the country, where I grew up. It's never locked and anyone can go there 24/7. The church has a congregation of about 60 and has been there for over 100 years. It's a beautiful building. Nobody has ever vandalized it or stolen anything from it. In small communities, people just don't see themselves as potential targets of this kind of crime.

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JustJimColo 16 days ago

In response to “If a nut case doesn't have a gun, he will...

liberals blame the person responsible not the weapon until a gun is used, when a gun is used it magically becomes the guns fault

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sh9683 16 days ago

I know how Americans think about guns, but I can only go by experience...in England we don't carry guns or own them, gun crimes are rare and I'm not saying the odd nutter don't kill people, because it has happened ..but we don't experience anything like you do in America ..

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “I know how Americans think about guns, but I...

so violence is only wrong if a gun is used? that is what you are subconsciously saying. because violence did not go down in england.

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “so violence is only wrong if a gun is used?...

Plenty of violence here, but not many get shot....

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “Plenty of violence here, but not many get shot....

naw jusy blown up to bits from bombs, or stabbed, point being violence is NOT lower.

is violence only wrong if a gun is used?

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “naw jusy blown up to bits from bombs, or...

Have you not heard of terrorism....it's not new....

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “Have you not heard of terrorism....it's not...

proving my point JD, guns are NOT the problem.

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “proving my point JD, guns are NOT the problem.

Yep, point your finger and say bang....watch them fall....

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JD 16 days ago

In response to “Yep, point your finger and say bang....watch...

Stop being dumb. As I said and you darn well know violence is not lower in England despite your anti gun laws. Don’t need guns to kill people

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sh9683 15 days ago

In response to “Stop being dumb. As I said and you darn well...

So I'm dumb...what a lovely person you are...not....per 100,000 people gun deaths in USA ..10.54 and for the uk ..0.23... Do your sums...

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JD 15 days ago

In response to “So I'm dumb...what a lovely person you...

lol, did you ever bother to compare that with population? pretty sure USA is much larger then England so yeah their will be more deaths.

so no one dies in England from violence? or do you seriously think violence is ok so long as no guns are used?

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sh9683 15 days ago

In response to “lol, did you ever bother to compare that with...

Don't you understand figures, the population don't matter if one place is larger than the other, the figures are based on every 100,000 people...you called me dumb...that's funny...where did I say no one dies in England and where did I say violence is ok....also I've not said I don't agree with guns, I've just given you facts...shame you don't understand...and you resort to insults..

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JD 15 days ago

Why the heck was this guy not locked back up again?

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beachbum 16 days ago

I have to admit, having talked to a good friend of mine who is also a Republican, that my views on guns have changed somewhat.

I also applaud the actions of the two gents in the picture.

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TheCensoredBrit 16 days ago

In response to “I have to admit, having talked to a good...

exactly, these two saved lives. had they not been allowed a gun in public more would have died

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sh9683 16 days ago

In response to “exactly, these two saved lives. had they not...

I thought it was just the older gent who had a rifle and the one in the hat ran the gunman off the road after he drove off.

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TheCensoredBrit 16 days ago

Shit, I was waiting for someone on here to exploit that tragedy.

And no, I don't want to go back to the wild west days.

If the guy hadn't been allowed in the FIRST PLACE to buy guns, there wouldn't have been a mass church shooting.

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dru18 16 days ago

In response to “Shit, I was waiting for someone on here to...

People get guns illegally. The guy who shots up the church had the gun illegally. Legal gun owners prevented a higher casualty.

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sh9683 15 days ago

In response to “People get guns illegally. The guy who shots...

There is no proof that legal gun owners prevent higher causalities.

Getting guns illegally, happens all the time.

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dru18 15 days ago

There I knew someone would have a gun

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LorraineTwevlehundredRaineTwelvehundred 16 days ago

These shootings are government based mind control sleeper cells programmed to kill with the outcome of the shooter being killed or committing suicide. That way they cannot be questioned. If the situation doesn't have a motive, question it. Real people don't do this crap without a motive.

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Jaxxi 16 days ago

Jaxxi, There is always a motive whenever an illegal shooting occurs. It's just that the law enforcement officials don't always tell the public what motive they discovered, or the shooter's motive conveniently became unavailable for discovery when he was killed. But your mind controlled hit man theory has seen quite a few examples where the hit men were Muslims instructed by the Quran to kill infidels!

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goblue1968 15 days ago

Democrat politicians don't really care about people. What they care about is achieving their political agenda at any cost.

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Brianl 15 days ago

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