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No, I don't think so. I am still waiting to read one comment that will convince me there is any value in killing a person as a form of punishment....Btw: I have been waiting a long time.

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Tiffanee 5 days ago

In response to “No, I don't think so. I am still waiting to...

Because it is of course a far better use of time, effort, money and resource to incarcerate mass murderers for life right?

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AliceD 5 days ago

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A lot of resources say that costs even more.

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Tiffanee 5 days ago

In response to “No, I don't think so. I am still waiting to...

In Europe murderers get out after 15 years and one that got out and went on to murder a girl friend of mine...if he had been executed, then she would still be alive...

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JD 4 days ago

I'm kind of on the fence with that. Taking a life is not an easy thing to live with. I think they should stay in prison with no soap on a rope and a cell mate named Big Bubba. That should fix the problem.

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Rooster 5 days ago

I support castration for rapists

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TomboyJanet 5 days ago

Nope, not possible.

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JerryHendrickson 5 days ago

They are

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VicZinc 5 days ago

Odd. I expected far more disagrees.

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Sukiesnow 5 days ago

Let's see; Appeals cost a fortune, the threat of death has been proven NOT to be a deterrent, and we are the only civilized country that is still killing people for killing people. Kinda of a no brainer.

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dru18 5 days ago

In response to “Let's see; Appeals cost a fortune, the threat...

How many people convicted or rape or murder are released and commit the same crimes again? How many people who are executed for those crimes commit them again.

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JustJimColo 5 days ago

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"How many people who are executed for those crimes commit them again."

And how many, just replace them.

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dru18 4 days ago

In response to “"How many people who are executed for...

Zero "replace" them. There will always be murderers and rapists out there. We just need to keep thinning the heard or we will be overrun.

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JustJimColo 4 days ago

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You will never "thin" the heard, and execution is not the answer.

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dru18 19 hrs ago

In response to “You will never "thin" the heard, and...

So are you saying, just give up?

What is the answer then Dru?

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JustJimColo 19 hrs ago

In response to “So are you saying, just give up? What is the...

Have we ever given up?

I have stated three reasons why I believe execution is not the answer.

Lock them up, and make them work for the state.

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dru18 18 hrs ago

In response to “Have we ever given up? I have stated three...

You said we will never thin the herd. To me, that is giving up.

How many people who are locked up, "work for the state?"
New York City is an expensive place to live for just about everyone, including prisoners.

The city paid $167,731 to feed, house and guard each inmate last year, according to a study the Independent Budget Office released this week.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/...tudy-says.html

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JustJimColo 18 hrs ago

In response to “You said we will never thin the herd. To me...

No, we will never thin the herd. I think people are more callous, and more desensitize now, then in previous generations.

And as I have stated, with APPEALS, that could go as long as twenty years +, it is REALLY EXPENSIVE.

I didn't say how many are working for the state, nor is that the point. You asked me what would be my idea of a solution, and I gave you an example.

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dru18 18 hrs ago

In response to “No, we will never thin the herd. I think...

LOL.... OK

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JustJimColo 18 hrs ago

In response to “LOL.... OK

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dru18 18 hrs ago

In response to “Let's see; Appeals cost a fortune, the threat...

How do you prove that someone hasn't been murdered because of the threat of the death penalty conviction.

It's called the Death Penalty because that is what it is a penalty. It was never meant to be a deterrent.

As far as the appeals process goes. People serving life sentences are still choking up the legal system. So if there were no death penalty those inmates would also be having appeals filed.

As someone who has had a family member brutally murdered and never solved. The idea that if the SOB is ever caught and convicted and then get to live out the remainder of their life even in prison makes me sick.

My cousin was murdered by someone who acted as judge, jury AND executioner. And his only hope for an appeal was to plead for his life just before his throat was sliced open.

Yeah don't ask me to feel sorry human scum

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Brianl 4 days ago

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Except that it isn't a deterrent, otherwise, Texas and Florida would be the two safest places in the world to live...and we know that they are anything but.

Only in this country would we think that death is harsher than rotting away in prison.

I am very sorry for your loss, Briani, I hope they find the guy, and bring your family closure.

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dru18 4 days ago

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Dru that's my point its was never meant to be a deterrent. it is a penalty for a crime committed that's it.

California and New York don't have the death penalty. There prisons are spilling over. So I'd have to say that housing them isn't working either as a deterrent either.

Look I don't like the fact that criminals put us all in this position. Taking a person life is serious.

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Brianl 4 days ago

In response to “Dru that's my point its was never meant to be...

I brought up deterrent because you would suspect that anyone would think twice before taking a life, if they thought their death would be the consequence, But I guess they feel they won't be caught, or just so jaded, that they don't care.

I believe California has the death penalty, or it did.

I certainly agree with the last part.

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dru18 17 hrs ago

In response to “I brought up deterrent because you would...

You are leave a key human element out of the equation.

That of emotion, specifically hate or rage. Those will blind a person to all logic. Hence to reason the deterrent factory never enters into a situation where murder is involved.

Then there is pure evil. Some people have something within them that defies logic.

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Brianl 14 hrs ago

what i don't get is how liberals think murdering innocent babies is better then killing a murderer

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sh9683 5 days ago

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It's time to stop painting a group of people with the same broad brush stroke. Nuances, sh...nuances.

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Sukiesnow 5 days ago

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lol, i don;t see many conservatives or libertarians with those hypocritical believes. it is LIBERALS for the most part

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sh9683 5 days ago

In response to “lol, i don;t see many conservatives or...

How do you see it? From where do you see it... I don't see much difference between Conservatives or Liberals.... We are ALL just people!!

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Sukiesnow 4 days ago

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yes we are all people, people with different beliefs, some devastatingly more hypocritical then others, if some people are against capital punishment and use "human rights" as a reason against it but support abortion, then I am sorry but they are huge hypocrites, and do not really care for human rights, but rather care more for a criminal then the innocent

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sh9683 4 days ago

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What I don't get, is how you keep introducing this subject on posts that have nothing to do with it.

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dru18 4 days ago

Maybe. But consider the number of people who have been wrongly convicted of crimes through the years. Isn't it possible, if not probable, that we have executed innocent people?

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Chris_PHAET_Demon 5 days ago

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That's what scares me...

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Sukiesnow 5 days ago

In response to “That's what scares me...

Ditto. The reality is our judicial system is flawed. We make mistakes. That is unacceptable when dealing with a death sentence.

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Chris_PHAET_Demon 5 days ago

In response to “Maybe. But consider the number of people...

On the other hand, guilty people have got off and murdered again...and they murdered innocent people..nothing is guaranteed

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JD 4 days ago

In response to “Maybe. But consider the number of people...

that is why i am on the fence about capital punishment,

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sh9683 4 days ago

Where there is no doubt that the accused person committed a crime like murder...then execute them within weeks...there have been so many murderers gone free or released after years in prison ..they have gone on to kill again..another innocent victim...

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JD 5 days ago

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society is drifting away from caring for the innocent victims to defending the criminals

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sh9683 4 days ago

In response to “society is drifting away from caring for the...

That's true...

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JD 4 days ago

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