Context matters. When we don't pay attention to it, it can change the entire meaning of the situation. --- I've been looking up what Jon Ronson says on a lot of issues. He gives an interesting perspective on things.
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Bravo to Jon Ronson, and I also congratulate you and thank you for sharing this. :D
This brilliant video exposes a shocking reality that many people quite frankly don't want to accept. Sometimes people get so caught up in the craziness of social media that it becomes terrifyingly easy to forget to treat other people as humans. It's something people need to be careful about (of course I can't speak for everyone).
I completely agree with you that cyberbullying is real, but unfortunately many people can't see that. Many people are caught up in their own group-thinking and choose to believe that they are defending a good cause, when they are actually just destroying a person's life.
The internet makes it impersonal - you're not face to face with the person, so it's easier to have no empathy.
Yup, like he said, some people put ideologies over humans. It shouldn't be like that.
Edit: you're welcome and thank you :D
That's so true, sadly.
Just saw the edit..
My pleasure. XD
I was so focused on the topic I forgot to say it in the first place
loool, no problem!! xD
Interesting speech. Thanks for posting.
You're welcome :)
Cyber-bullying has become a hobby for some people but it says more about them than the people they are bullying.
It's a shame that some people have nothing better to do than cyber bully others on a web site. Or at least try to. Must lead miserable lives, that's for sure.
19 anonymous disagrees. WTF?
It's my fan. I'm very loved :D And it appears my fan really believes cyberbullying isn't real and a made up term.
Edit: Oh, look, It's on 20. I'm waiting to see if it reaches 50.
The anonymous disagrees just proves your point even more.
Ohhhh... maybe my fan is trying to help me by proving my point. Good boy!
Some bullies will never change....the sad part is they think they are superior to the rest of us....just saying.
Well we know who's doing that don't we? Amirite's #1 bully, trying to sabotage this post.
Funny when he returns under yet another name the anonymous disagrees explode all over the site.
I think people should be more aware of giving their self worth over to a bunch of random internet strangers. Although this may be a callous statement, people probably need to be given the tools to survive such things, which is easier said than done.
I think face to face bullying is worse, been there. JMO
I would of hated to be a Teen in this era SYN
I think our Nerves would be shot.
So much Peer Pressure these days and it's constant with absolutely no let up because of the Internet. We could close our doors when we were Teens with our own little Anxieties and hang ups , now Bullies can walk right in to their Private space and terrorize a Kid with the same little Anxieties and hang ups that we had.
We were so Lucky my friend to dodge this Bullet.
Yes agree. We didn't have the internet back then, so I experienced face to face bullying. Luckily it didn't go on too long, but i did suffer some side effects that has stuck with me for years.
"ditto" and I'm not undermining what happened to you because I know the long term damaging effects Bullying in RL can have on a Person and the effects at the time. It Crushes the Human Spirit.
Yes it does. Why do you think I played football, was a bouncer, kickboxing, all aggressive sports. It was a way to retaliate. Sparring in kickboxing really helped me.
I was more about my Music , could escape playing my Clarinet or Violin but maybe I should of been pounding someone on the mats , I'd of been less likely to pound them into the pavement. lolz not funny but it's not really my fault that I have an aggressive streak in me.
During the time i was getting bullied, my dad got me a weight set and said: take your frustration out on the weights, and it will also help you put some weight on you, your too skinny. Ha!
Yeah it's not really my fault that I have an aggressive nature as well. Blame it on the bully.
My dad trained me at 13 onwards but I think I was just his Pet Project tbh it was nice to please him as I actually became Muscular , so he knew I was taking it seriously and not mucking him around.
It was Cool because Kids at School started to see me as a threat , even as a Girl to the Guys I could pin them to the ground and pummel them if they pissed me off.
I used to hear the whispers behind me at School "have you seen the Veins in her arms lately" and I would just grin from ear to ear.
Yes! We shall Blame it on the Bullies.
That's cool ... hey he wanted his little girl to protect herself. Nothing wrong with that at all.
I did , against him when I was 15
I hit him so hard I knocked him across the room and he fell against the Bureau the first time I Punched him back and he was a Big Fucker because of the Steroids. Something inside me just snapped!
Yikes ... You can kick some ****. huh?
all thanks to daddy lolz
don't mind me I'm a Twisted fucker sometimes.
But there's a way bigger audience on the internet, and when you have thousands of people ganging up on you and going through your life the best way they can just to find any flaw they can when in truth you haven't really done anything wrong... that will make a lot of damage.
I here Sofia and I agree 100%.
I saw this story on FB of a girl in her final year in high school. She was bullied by a bunch of "hate girls" who cropped her photo and put in on a **** site. Her reputation was ruined, she couldn't deal with it, so she took her life. I was quite taken back on that story..
Yeah. I've heard some stories that just made me sick.
Me too. It's horrible, how can they live with that on their conscious?
I don't know. I did something I still regret deeply nowadays.
When I was in high school, I was this shy idiotic girl that just wanted to have friends. Some of my girl friends didn't like each other, at all. And when things got ugly between them, I made the wrong choice by continuing being friends with the bullies on that situation, and I lost one of the other friends.
Funny thing: things didn't end well between me and those "bullies". Three of them ended up not liking me very much. The only saving grace was the fourth one, that realised how bitchy they were, and stepped away from them and continued being my friend. But if I had any choice, I would have told them to **** off from the beginning and stay with the others. They were good people and what I did was wrong.
I can't understand how someone is a bully and is fine with him/herself. I did it with no intention and I still hate it. Doing it on purpose? No, my brain doesn't compute that.
Some people don't care who they hurt, and that applies to some here on Amirite. Just as long as they can make themselves look good....but it's not working, others are seeing what a cruel person they can be.
They're both bad. It's not a competition. I was told I was too fat to dance, at a dance. People used to yell "earthquake" when I walked by. I was told numerous times online and face to face to kill myself,etc. Neither one is ok.
Sorry to hear that Trish. I agree on both.
I don't take anyone serious online, god knows who's behind the screen.
But I understand exactly what you are saying.
One other thing i'd forgotten to mention or bring up... cyberbullying often is so intertwined with the real world anyway. For example, spread a rumor, post private videos/pictures, post someone's personal information (address,phone number,etc) so that they can be harassed and feel super unsafe. It's just a very thin line,anyway. Of course there are times when people just bully and "talk" to hear their own voice, but, it's to the point where I have 100% begun taking any threats very seriously.
Yeah that can be quite scary. Sounds like your speaking from experience, I sure hope not.
I've been a Witness to that kind of Mob Mentality quite recently on You tube and sometimes I'll try to be the Voice of reason and a few will support me but so many more would rather virtually Slaughter someone for saying something inappropriate or even just Stupid.
Great post babe I watched the whole vid , hope others do to before joining in with the discussion. We need Visionaries like him to make us step back and think.
I really like what he said. I've seen that mob mentally before on Twitter and on Facebook. My younger sister has an account on Twitter and she show me things sometimes, and on FB I've seen hundreds of people coming after one of my cousins after his girlfriend (now ex) framed him for some comments and posted it online. It's not pretty at all.
Edit: thank you :D
(I guess I'm too invested in this - it's the second time I forget to thank someone)
just go with the flow People know you appreciate their input. ah I wondered what had triggered this discussion . so how old is your Cousin Sofia ?
Revenge used to be cutting up an exes Wardrobe or trashing their Car etc but now if I ever become an Ex I'm going out to the Mountains where there is NO Wifi
It was just the video, really. I found out while messing around on Youtube.
My cousin is now... 19-20? Around that. This happened some time back.
Better do that xD I know that even with the proof that he wasn't the one writing the messages (the police got involved in it), people continued coming after him. Now it died down.
I get ya , I find a new subject every week that fascinates me on YT.
It must have been an awful experience for him because he was still quite young. I'm glad it's all over for him now .......it is isn't it?
I can imagine and so many People have different levels of Patience and Understanding that it's just a mass melting pot of opinions and Anger and they all have an invested interest OR they think they do.
Sofia did complete Strangers Online get involved in their Break up ?
Yeah, it's over. His life goes on.
I don't understand the question, sorry.
that's good and a relief for you.
don't worry babe
lolz I made this POTD when it was on 6 comments
I knew this was going to be a great discussion
so didn't hesitate and it makes more sense to me because this is fresh and not something that has been chewed over.
Thank you :) It's good to see people discussing it.
You're welcome and it needs to be discussed
Actually, forget it. I got the question. No, they were already shaky before all that happened.
Damn, I'm slow xD
enjoy your post Sweetie
I don't get some of this "cyber bullying". All a person has to do, is turn off the machine. Many of those I've seen who are crying about cyber bullying, bring it on themselves. If you don't want to be called out over a stupid remark, don't make it.
I do empathize with those who are getting bullied by someone they actually know in the real world.
I empathise with both. I've seen the damage both can do to someone, and it's not different from where I was standing.
BUT the Bullying Online is still going on Jim even when the screen is Black and that runs thru a Persons Mind , especially a mixed up Teen trying to find their place in this World and trying to be recognized as an Adult and accepted by their Peers.
Grown Adults I have less Sympathy for
If I'm honest but there are always exceptions.
If I start a fight Online , that's my Problem and I face it head on.
I think too many people have let "on-line", become their reality instead of face to face interpersonal relations. A person who can't cope because of their problems with their on-line relationships with people, need to work on being with real people, and developing friendships. Then, the online stuff isn't as important.
I think I was lucky, I grew up in a time when bullying wasn't so rife...it started in my teens and although I never got bullied , people did push a little which may have turned into bullying, but I just hit them and after a few different people got knocked down, everyone left me alone...I did stop various bullying to some younger kids which made me feel good ....
You should. Too many people pretend not noticing when bullying is happening.
A time when Men used their Fists to fight , why can't we go back to that and leave all this madness behind us?
When did it become so important to extinguish another's Life in a blink of an Eye without thought and often motive ?
When I was young we had the death penalty, now they get eight years....no deterrent
8 years for Murder that's just not right.
Some have got out early ...so wrong
did you watch the vid Eli you should watch it all the way thru
I really don't understand why people are so afraid of jokers on the internet. They don't know you and not even real to me. When someone on line talks like a bigshot I immediately know they are a tiny powerless person- hiding behind their screen because in real life they can do nothing.
I'm not speaking of jokers or trolls. I'm speaking of bullies. They are not the same.
What difference nobody is stronger on line
People get damaged Psychologically online when they're being Bullied , it's not about being Physically Stronger , it's People Mentally trying to break another that does the damage.
I can't believe how many people disagreed!!! I have been harassed, called every name in the book, told to kill myself, threatened with rape and murder. It is 100% NOT A JOKE. It's not funny. It's not ok to do.
Most of those disagrees are from one troll. You can see on the top where the avatars appear on the side, on who Agreed and Disagreed. 23 of the 24 Disagrees have no avatar - there's someone who goes around disagreeing on some posts from some specific members. No matter what it's said, they will disagree just to mess with the OP, I guess. Don't take it seriously. Whoever it is, it's not worth it.
We both know of someone who is bullying and insulting everyone.... it needs to stop.
She is so bad she makes the occasional socks seem nice.
Is a disagree supposed to be bullying now? People need to suck it up and grow a spine for themselves. OR JUST STAY OFF LINE.
Can you read? If you could you'd know it's way more than disagreement.
I said there is a troll going around disagreeing witn some post, doens't matter the content just to mess with some members, and that she shouldn't care about it, because that person is not worth it. Where on that am I saying disagreement is bullying and that I'm offended by anything? Don't come here telling anyone what to stay out for if you can't even understand what is being said.
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